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Introduction

On September 24, 2007, I received reports of cheating at Absolute Poker from a confidential informant. It was claimed that a player named POTRIPPER had the capacity to view the hole cards of other players. Having previously exposed instances of unfair play in blackjack, roulette, and video poker multiple times, I've taken on the role of a guardian for fair play in online gambling. You can review my previous investigations on my Online Casino Blacklist. Since gaining this reputation, I have been contacted by countless frustrated players who, after unfortunate losses, have made claims of cheating; often these claims are based solely on emotionally charged narratives without solid evidence. Moreover, when some numerical data were presented, they frequently pointed to pure bad luck rather than deceit. Therefore, it takes compelling evidence for me to believe that losses are due to cheating rather than luck.

Upon hearing the cheating allegations, I checked the forums and found the evidence lacking. Initially, I encountered a few questionable hands shared on the site, along with a lot of discussions. While I did find some of the hands suspicious, the evidence wasn’t strong enough to draw firm conclusions. After all, bizarre circumstances do happen. Nevertheless, the intensity of the situation escalated.twoplustwo.com On October 8, I was given access to several tournament log files involving POTRIPPER. Although many were in a format that was difficult to interpret, I was able to examine a tournament held on September 13. In that event, POTRIPPER participated in 41 hands, with an average of six players per table. If we assume all players had equal skill levels and strategies—which is a big assumption—he would typically be expected to win approximately 7.28 hands. In reality, he won 25 hands, which is 7.29 standard deviations above the expected outcome. The odds of achieving such a result are 1 in 6.6 trillion, assuming all players are equally skilled. Remarkably, it would be 469,000 times more plausible to win a standard 6/49 lottery. This surely raised my suspicions, although I remained concerned this could have been a case of chip dumping orchestrated by other players. This practice is a common method of scamming if someone manages to access another player's account credentials, for instance, through a keylogger. While this is a serious concern, it falls outside my focus on gambling-related misconduct.

The next pivotal moment occurred on October 15 when I was informed about an animated replay of another tournament involving POTRIPPER. This tournament can be found on pokerxfactor.com. Although the link requires a password for access, signing up is straightforward. Interestingly, the playback reveals the cards held by every participant. Reportedly, Absolute Poker supplied this file to the player CRAZYMARCO after he leveled accusations of cheating against POTRIPPER. The file was initially formatted in a confusing Excel style, and it took some effort to organize it so the playback feature on pokerxfactor.com could effectively display it. Even then, certain hands and events within those hands appeared slightly out of sequence. Nevertheless, it was relatively easy to follow the action of each hand. I found it quite surprising that Absolute Poker provided this data, as, in my opinion, it serves as compelling evidence indicating potential wrongdoing beyond just chip dumping.

Although the playback contains 130 hands, only the initial 93 show the cards of all players. At hand 94, however, it seems to transition into a different tournament, revealing cards only for CRAZYMARCO unless other players were compelled to show theirs. Below is my analysis of the first 93 hands.

Performed a check-raise on the flop with a weak hand, anticipating SCOTT_NZL would likely fold.

POTRIPPER Tournament TranscriptExpand

Hand
Number
Total
Players
PR
Position
PR Cards PR
Win/Loss
Pre-flop
Action
River
Action
Comments
1 7 BB 26 W Call n/a Made a pre-flop raise against players with hands that were insufficient to call.
2 7 SB 3 Q W Raise n/a Executed a large raise on the river while holding just two pair, but it was the best hand.
3 7 D 8 K W Raise n/a Made large bet on turn with best hand.
4 7 D-1 QJ W Call n/a All in on turn with nut straight.
5 7 D-3 A 5 W Raise Raise Initiated a hefty raise on the turn with a weak hand, knowing JOSIAHW would probably fold.
6 7 D-4 A4 W Raise n/a Made a pre-flop raise, confident that POTROAST would likely back down.
7 9 BB 2K W Call Raise Raise on river with best hand.
8 9 SB 3 5 W Raise n/a Folded on the turn against SCARFACE whose hand was significantly stronger.
9 9 D QQ W Raise n/a All in on flop with best hand.
10 8 d-1 Q 5 L Call n/a Gave up on the pre-flop with a poor hand when faced with a large re-raise.
11 8 d-2 37 W Call Raise Raise on river with best hand.
12 8 d-3 8 4 L Raise n/a Chose to fold pre-flop due to a weak hand and a substantial raise to call.
13 8 d-5 K2 L Call n/a Fold against a set on the flop.
14 8 d-5 48 L Call n/a Raised on the turn with a poor hand, likely leading SCARFACE_79 to fold.
15 8 SB 45 W Call n/a Did not continue on the river against two hands that were clearly stronger.
16 8 D 7 8 L Call Fold Raised on the flop with a better hand, causing DZOONUTS to fold.
17 8 D-1 QQ W Raise n/a Raised pre-flop with my strongest hand, causing all opponents to fold.
18 8 D-2 6 Q W Raise n/a Raised pre-flop despite holding a poor hand, knowing my opponents were likely to fold.
19 8 d-3 J Q L Raise n/a Fold on flop after POKERME420 flopped a set.
20 8 d-4 2Q L Raise Fold Fold on river against stronger hand.
21 8 d-5 4 8 L Raise n/a Fold on flop against stronger hands.
22 8 BB 7Q W Raise n/a Executed a large raise on the turn with a weak hand, expecting the opponent to fold.
23 8 SB Q 7 L Call n/a Fold on turn with bad hand.
24 8 D QA W Raise n/a Folded on the flop against a top pair with a weaker hand.
25 8 D-1 Q 8 L Call n/a Performed a check-raise on the flop holding ace high, confident POTROAST would fold.
26 8 D-2 A 8 W Raise n/a Executed a raise on the flop with ace high, anticipating folding from opponents.
27 8 D-3 A3 W Raise n/a Raised pre-flop with a weak hand, knowing opponents were unlikely to call.
28 8 D-4 66 W Raise n/a Raise pre-flop, opponents fold.
29 8 D-5 45 W Raise n/a Raised pre-flop even with a poor hand, anticipating KOOLKEITH13 would not call.
30 8 BB 46 W Raise n/a Raised on the flop with a queen high, confident my opponents were not strong enough to continue.
31 8 SB QQ W Call n/a Folded on the turn when facing a stronger opponent.
32 8 D 7 9 L Call n/a Raised on the flop with a weak hand, knowing BIGREDAK86 would probably fold.
33 8 D-1 J4 W Raise n/a Went all-in on the turn with a pair of sixes, knowing POKERME420 couldn't justify a call.
34 8 D-2 7 6 W Raise n/a Raised on the flop with a marginal hand, making it unreasonable for JOSIAHW to call.
35 8 D-3 A 5 W Raise Raise Raise on river with best hand.
36 8 D-5 Q4 L Raise n/a Fold on turn against top pair.
37 8 BB Q K W Raise n/a Raised on the flop holding a weak hand, causing opponents to fold as they couldn't justify a call.
38 8 SB JJ L Call n/a Fold on turn against stronger hand.
39 8 D 4K L Call n/a Fold on turn against stronger hand.
40 8 D-1 QQ W Raise Raise Win on river with best hand.
41 8 D-2 3Q W Call n/a Chose to fold pre-flop with a poor hand against pocket queens.
42 8 D-3 65 W Raise n/a Raised pre-flop even with a poor hand, anticipating KOOLKEITH13 would not call.
43 8 D-4 99 W Call Raise Raise on river with best hand.
44 9 D-5 5 5 W Raise n/a Raise on turn with best hand.
45 9 BB 9 4 L Check Fold Fold on river with losing hand.
46 9 SB 5K W Call Raise Raise on river with best hand.
47 9 D 35 L Fold n/a Decided to fold pre-flop with a bad hand against pocket kings.
48 9 D-1 5 J L Fold n/a Called an all-in on the turn with a superior hand.
49 9 D-2 A 9 W Raise n/a Raise on flop with stronger hand.
50 9 D-3 A2 L Raise n/a Raised on the flop with an inside straight draw, knowing opponents wouldn't have strong hands to call.
51 9 D-4 8 9 W Raise n/a Folded all-in pre-flop against a considerable stronger hand.
52 9 D-5 37 L Raise n/a Chose to fold pre-flop against stronger hands, including pocket queens.
53 9 D-6 52 L Fold n/a Responded to a bluff re-raise by BIGREDAK86; my call didn't make sense under the circumstances.
54 9 SB J5 W Raise n/a Folded pre-flop with a weak hand against pocket jacks.
55 9 D 4Q L Fold n/a Called an all-in bluff on the flop with a stronger hand.
56 9 D-1 4 3 L Raise n/a Performed a check-raise on the flop holding ace high, confident POTROAST would fold.
57 9 D-2 AA W Call n/a Opted to fold pre-flop when facing stronger hands.
58 8 D-3 KQ L Fold n/a Folded pre-flop against pocket aces.
59 8 D-4 K Q W Raise Raise Raised on river with stronger hand.
60 9 BB Q Q W Call n/a Raised on the flop with an inside straight draw, knowing opponents wouldn't have strong hands to call.
61 8 SB J9 W Call Raise Raised on river with stronger hand.
62 8 D-2 8 4 L Fold n/a Folded on the flop with a middle pair against a higher pair.
63 8 D-3 6 J W Raise n/a Raised pre-flop, all others folded.
64 8 D-4 8 2 W Raise n/a Raised pre-flop with a poor hand, finding my weak opponents unable to justify a call.
65 8 D-5 6 2 W Raise n/a Went all-in on the turn against POTROAST's overly aggressive play.
66 8 BB K 8 W Raise n/a All in pre-flop, with no strong opponents.
67 8 SB A6 L Raise n/a Raised pre-flop with a weak hand against opponents who couldn't justify calling.
68 8 D 92 L Fold n/a Folded pre-flop.
69 8 D-2 AK L Raise n/a Folded on turn against high pair.
70 8 D-3 K 8 L Raise n/a Folded on flop against top two pair.
71 8 D-4 2 7 W Raise n/a Folded pre-flop with unfavorable cards and a poor position at the table.
72 8 D-5 3 2 L Fold n/a Bluffed on the turn, knowing SCARFACE couldn't justify calling my bet.
73 8 BB 95 W Call n/a Bluffed pre-flop, with POTROAST unable to justify a call.
74 8 SB 32 W Raise n/a Executed a bluff on the flop, with CLOVER777 not strong enough to call.
75 8 D 4 5 W Raise n/a CLOVER777 decided to fold on the turn with a weaker hand.
76 8 D-2 Q5 L n/a n/a n/a
77 7 n/a 9Q n/a n/a W Bluffed on the river, with SCARFACE likely worried about a potential straight or flush.
78 8 Raise 7Q n/a All in pre-flop, with no strong opponents. SB Bluffed pre-flop against players who were not strong enough to contend.
79 8 A 94 L Raise n/a Chose to fold with a strong hand against pocket aces.
80 8 D L Fold n/a Folded pre-flop. D-2 Folded to a re-raise when faced with a stronger hand.
81 8 A K 6 L Raise n/a Raised on the flop while my opponent couldn't justify a call.
82 8 Folded on turn against high pair. D-3 K L Raise n/a Made an all-in bluff on the river, with SCARFACE unable to call.
83 8 Folded on flop against top two pair. D-4 W Raise n/a D-5 Raised on the flop, and AUTOSMOKE couldn't justify a call.
84 8 L FoldJ n/a BB W Made a strong raise on the river, causing POTROAST to become very aggressive.
85 9 Call n/a3 SB W Raise Folded an all-in raise on the flop holding a weaker hand.
86 9 n/a D 2 W Raise n/a D-2
87 8 Q 7 9 L n/a n/a Chose to fold pre-flop with unsatisfactory cards and an unfavorable position.
88 8 n/a n/a n/a n/a W Raise n/a
89 8 All in pre-flop, with no strong opponents. 2Q SB A L Called an all-in bluff pre-flop while holding pocket fives.
90 8 Raise 55 n/a D L Called an all-in bluff pre-flop with K/3 offsuit.
91 7 Fold 3n/a Folded pre-flop. D-2 A Hand Number: Displays the order of hands as represented in the Playback.
92 7 K 26 L Raise n/a Folded on turn against high pair.
93 9 D-3 K 6 L Raise n/a Folded on flop against top two pair.

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Total Players: Indicates the total number of players engaged in each hand.
PR Position: Specifies POTRIPPER's position - BB for Big Blind, SB for Small Blind, D for Dealer, D-n for the number of positions behind the dealer.
PR Pre-flop Action: Details the very first action taken pre-flop by POTRIPPER.
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Slot competitions offering large prize pools44 On September 24, 2007, I received tips about potential cheating at Absolute Poker from an anonymous informant. The claim was that a player known as POTRIPPER could see his opponents' hole cards. Having exposed inconsistencies in games like blackjack, roulette, and video poker before, I have somewhat taken on the role of an unofficial watchdog for integrity in online gambling. You can find my previous investigations on my

Since earning this reputation, I've been contacted by countless players lamenting their misfortunes, often accusing others of cheating without substantial proof, relying solely on emotionally charged tales of their defeats. When concrete numerical data is presented, it frequently points to simple misfortune rather than any foul play. Thus, I remain skeptical and require compelling evidence to believe that losses stem from cheating rather than just bad luck.

Upon hearing the cheating allegations, I turned to online forums, but the evidence presented was somewhat lacking. Initially, I came across a handful of dubious hands shared on the boards, along with a lot of side discussions. While I had to admit that some of those hands appeared questionable, there simply wasn’t enough to draw any firm conclusions. Oddly enough, stranger situations have occurred in the past. Nevertheless, the controversy began to escalate.

On October 8, I received various tournament log files involving POTRIPPER's gameplay. While many of them were in unreadable formats, I managed to analyze a tournament dated September 13. In this event, POTRIPPER played a total of 41 hands, in a setting with an average of six participants at the table. If we assume all players shared the same skill level and usage of strategies—a significant assumption—I could calculate that he would typically expect to win approximately 7.28 hands. In reality, he secured 25 victories. That performance was 7.29 standard deviations above what one would anticipate, akin to winning a lottery with odds of 1 in 6.6 trillion, given equal player capabilities. In fact, it would be 469,000 times simpler to clinch a 6/49 lottery win. This raised my suspicions considerably. Yet, I remained wary that other players might have engaged in chip dumping—a known tactic for swindling money if someone had gained access to a player’s credentials, perhaps through a key logger. While this represents a serious issue, it falls outside my typical realm of casino-related foul play.

A pivotal moment occurred on October 15 when I was informed of an animated playback of another tournament that POTRIPPER participated in. This playback is available on pokerxfactor.com. Accessing the link requires a password, but it’s straightforward to sign up for entry. To my surprise, the playback showcases the cards from each player involved. Allegedly, Absolute Poker provided this file to a player named CRAZYMARCO after he made his cheating allegations against POTRIPPER. The original file was in a disorganized Excel format, requiring some effort to tidy it up for compatibility with pokerxfactor.com’s playback feature. Still, certain hands and some events within those hands were a bit misaligned, although the series of events was relatively easy to follow. I was taken aback that Absolute Poker would release this file, as it seemed to provide the crucial evidence this case needed to suggest there was something more devious than simple chip dumping happening.

While the playback comprises 130 hands, only the initial 93 reveal all player cards. Oddly, starting from hand 94, it shifts to a different game setting where only CRAZYMARCO's cards are visible unless forced reveals by other players occurred. Below is my summary of the initial 93 hands. n/a Attempted a check-raise on the flop with a weak hand, anticipating that SCOTT_NZL would likely back down.

Initiated a pre-flop raise against hands presumed too weak to call. D-5 Executed a substantial raise on the river, holding two pairs, which ended up being the winning hand.

Made a sizable raise on the turn despite having a weak hand, expecting JOSIAHW to fold. L .

Fold

Raised pre-flop, anticipating that POTROAST would most likely not call.

Chose to fold on the turn against SCARFACE's strong hand.

n/a Decided to fold pre-flop with a poor hand in the face of a significant re-raise. BB Opted to fold pre-flop with a weak hand facing a hefty raise.

Raised on the turn with a weak hand, expecting SCARFACE_79 to fold.

W

Fell back on the river against two hands that were stronger.

Call

Raised on the flop boasting a stronger hand, causing DZOONUTS to fold.